Comments on: Discipline (and lack thereof) http://striderweb.com/blog/2005/04/discipline-and-lack-thereof/ It's all about where you draw the line Fri, 16 Sep 2011 04:30:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Strider http://striderweb.com/blog/2005/04/discipline-and-lack-thereof/comment-page-1/#comment-76 Strider Sun, 01 May 2005 07:37:56 +0000 http://www.striderweb.com/blog/113#comment-76 I guess my point is this.... The mother won't discipline. The teachers can't discipline, (that is, they're not permitted). It's absolutely ludicrous (and an undue burden on society, frankly) to have to call the police *at all* for a five-year-old child, but the kid was so out of control, and the mother so irresponsible, that there was no other option. The little girl is so out of control because she has absolutely no fear of being disciplined, by anyone. I can only think that if she thought they were going to call the police (and she knew what that meant) she might have chosen to behave herself. Maybe, (just MAYBE!), she will remember this the next time she decides to act up, and it will give her reason to pause. Momma don't care. The teachers (literally) can't touch her. But now there is a real threat the next time a teacher tells her to knock it off. As I said above, though, the real answer (other than getting the mom to raise her damned kid) is to give the teachers a real, legal authority to discipline a disruptive child in a meaningful way (other than saying "oooh, don't do that, that makes me feel bad," as though that's going to do _anything_). I'm not necessarily saying corporeal punishment, even -- but sticking her in closet for ten minutes, rather than letting her trash the principal's office, might have worked wonders. I guess my point is this….

The mother won’t discipline. The teachers can’t discipline, (that is, they’re not permitted). It’s absolutely ludicrous (and an undue burden on society, frankly) to have to call the police *at all* for a five-year-old child, but the kid was so out of control, and the mother so irresponsible, that there was no other option.

The little girl is so out of control because she has absolutely no fear of being disciplined, by anyone. I can only think that if she thought they were going to call the police (and she knew what that meant) she might have chosen to behave herself. Maybe, (just MAYBE!), she will remember this the next time she decides to act up, and it will give her reason to pause.

Momma don’t care. The teachers (literally) can’t touch her. But now there is a real threat the next time a teacher tells her to knock it off.

As I said above, though, the real answer (other than getting the mom to raise her damned kid) is to give the teachers a real, legal authority to discipline a disruptive child in a meaningful way (other than saying “oooh, don’t do that, that makes me feel bad,” as though that’s going to do _anything_). I’m not necessarily saying corporeal punishment, even — but sticking her in closet for ten minutes, rather than letting her trash the principal’s office, might have worked wonders.

]]> By: Ann http://striderweb.com/blog/2005/04/discipline-and-lack-thereof/comment-page-1/#comment-75 Ann Sun, 01 May 2005 05:09:49 +0000 http://www.striderweb.com/blog/113#comment-75 Mom should have come earlier. Mom should have taken the kid home. Yes and all that. But the kid is 5. Sorry, I have dealt with 5-year-olds and have had my own. That child was being, well, 5. Mom should have come and spanked her, but because Mom didn't do her job, they called the police to handcuff the kid. Sorry, that is overkill. There's just nothing a 5-year-old could do to damage an adult. How much could it take to restrain a child that little? Strict discipline was called for, but handcuffs is just ridiculous. Something's really wrong there. 5-year-olds don't need handcuffs. I don't care what they have done. Mom should have come earlier. Mom should have taken the kid home. Yes and all that.
But the kid is 5. Sorry, I have dealt with 5-year-olds and have had my own. That child was being, well, 5. Mom should have come and spanked her, but because Mom didn’t do her job, they called the police to handcuff the kid. Sorry, that is overkill. There’s just nothing a 5-year-old could do to damage an adult. How much could it take to restrain a child that little? Strict discipline was called for, but handcuffs is just ridiculous. Something’s really wrong there. 5-year-olds don’t need handcuffs. I don’t care what they have done.

]]> By: Lawrence http://striderweb.com/blog/2005/04/discipline-and-lack-thereof/comment-page-1/#comment-72 Lawrence Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:38:41 +0000 http://www.striderweb.com/blog/113#comment-72 Well said, I don't think that I can add anything else. Well said, I don’t think that I can add anything else.

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