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	<description>It&#039;s all about where you draw the line</description>
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		<title>Comment on CBO: Congressional Budget Obfuscation by Stephen R</title>
		<link>http://striderweb.com/blog/2010/03/cbo-congressional-budget-obfuscation/comment-page-1/#comment-53479</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 05:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes WP 3, but the theme is old. (Predates child themes!)</description>
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		<title>Comment on CBO: Congressional Budget Obfuscation by Ben Tremblay</title>
		<link>http://striderweb.com/blog/2010/03/cbo-congressional-budget-obfuscation/comment-page-1/#comment-53474</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Tremblay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 21:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Stephen - Sorry I missed your reply; I must not have checked &quot;Notify&quot;. Just now found &quot;strider1.html&quot; in my buffer directory, the temporary copy of my comment ... thankfully I had noted the URL for this post!

I gotta say what you wrote here rang a big bell for me.

&quot;&lt;i&gt;I don’t expect all people to keep track of all aspects of day to day government, but [...] people who are interested would also be able to take that as a starting point and confirm the facts for themselves.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

Very much core to my thinking. (&lt;a href=&quot;http://bentrem.sycks.net/gnodal/&quot;&gt;&quot;Gnodal&quot;&lt;/a&gt; is a snap-shot of where I was in May of 2004. Forced upon me by a catastrophic HD failure that happened.) Are you familiar with Habermas? I digested everything he wrote grappling to understand the continuum of discourse &#124; discussion &#124; debate ... something like convince &#124; compel &#124; coerce &#124; conquer. &quot;Discourse ethics&quot; should be key.

&quot;&lt;i&gt;all people? Never. But many? Sure.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

I long ago came to the conclusion that the small number of folk who would very naturally devote energy to issues are being at best ill-served. At worst? Jerked around and mis-directed.
My &quot;target audience&quot; is a lot like the folk who dedicate themselves to WikiPedia. Folk who want more than the option to click &quot;Like&quot;, or comment like &quot;Yes, this is a great idea!&quot;

Do you know &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.historycommons.org/&quot;&gt;History Commons&lt;/a&gt;? What I imagine for my project (working along a very different axis) would be a lot like that, but applying what I&#039;ve learned about cognitive schema (&quot;user experience&quot;) and the formation of opinions (including &quot;conversion experiences&quot;).

cheers!

p.s. peek http://soup.groundplane.org and http://protension.com for some tasty munchies.
p.s.2 not upgraded to WP3? the new core comment function is jim-dandy peachy-keen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Stephen &#8211; Sorry I missed your reply; I must not have checked &#8220;Notify&#8221;. Just now found &#8220;strider1.html&#8221; in my buffer directory, the temporary copy of my comment &#8230; thankfully I had noted the URL for this post!</p>
<p>I gotta say what you wrote here rang a big bell for me.</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>I don’t expect all people to keep track of all aspects of day to day government, but [...] people who are interested would also be able to take that as a starting point and confirm the facts for themselves.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>Very much core to my thinking. (<a href="http://bentrem.sycks.net/gnodal/">&#8220;Gnodal&#8221;</a> is a snap-shot of where I was in May of 2004. Forced upon me by a catastrophic HD failure that happened.) Are you familiar with Habermas? I digested everything he wrote grappling to understand the continuum of discourse | discussion | debate &#8230; something like convince | compel | coerce | conquer. &#8220;Discourse ethics&#8221; should be key.</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>all people? Never. But many? Sure.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>I long ago came to the conclusion that the small number of folk who would very naturally devote energy to issues are being at best ill-served. At worst? Jerked around and mis-directed.<br />
My &#8220;target audience&#8221; is a lot like the folk who dedicate themselves to WikiPedia. Folk who want more than the option to click &#8220;Like&#8221;, or comment like &#8220;Yes, this is a great idea!&#8221;</p>
<p>Do you know <a href="http://www.historycommons.org/">History Commons</a>? What I imagine for my project (working along a very different axis) would be a lot like that, but applying what I&#8217;ve learned about cognitive schema (&#8220;user experience&#8221;) and the formation of opinions (including &#8220;conversion experiences&#8221;).</p>
<p>cheers!</p>
<p>p.s. peek <a href="http://soup.groundplane.org" rel="nofollow">http://soup.groundplane.org</a> and <a href="http://protension.com" >http://protension.com</a> for some tasty munchies.<br />
p.s.2 not upgraded to WP3? the new core comment function is jim-dandy peachy-keen</p>
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		<title>Comment on Stealing from children by Steve B</title>
		<link>http://striderweb.com/blog/2010/06/stealing-from-children/comment-page-1/#comment-53465</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 19:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s why I keep a baseball bat next to the door, out of sight, but within reach.

Both a deterrent and a consequence.  I suspect it will come in even more handy once my daughter begins to date.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s why I keep a baseball bat next to the door, out of sight, but within reach.</p>
<p>Both a deterrent and a consequence.  I suspect it will come in even more handy once my daughter begins to date.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Here we go again&#8230; by Justin</title>
		<link>http://striderweb.com/blog/2007/09/here-we-go-again/comment-page-1/#comment-53443</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 17:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Muslims need to grow the hell up!</description>
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		<title>Comment on CBO: Congressional Budget Obfuscation by Stephen R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 20:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben -- it&#039;s the &lt;a href=&quot;http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/live-comment-preview/&quot;&gt;Live Comment Preview&lt;/a&gt; plugin.

I don&#039;t expect all people to keep track of all aspects of day to day government, but if it were all out there, people would ultimately be able to figure out which &quot;watchdog&quot; groups (which would inevitably spring up) they choose to trust.  Much like blogs (in fact, it may actually be in the form of blogs) people who are interested would also be able to take that as a starting point and confirm the facts for themselves.  Again, all people?  Never.  But many?  Sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben &#8212; it&#8217;s the <a href="http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/live-comment-preview/">Live Comment Preview</a> plugin.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t expect all people to keep track of all aspects of day to day government, but if it were all out there, people would ultimately be able to figure out which &#8220;watchdog&#8221; groups (which would inevitably spring up) they choose to trust.  Much like blogs (in fact, it may actually be in the form of blogs) people who are interested would also be able to take that as a starting point and confirm the facts for themselves.  Again, all people?  Never.  But many?  Sure.</p>
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		<title>Comment on CBO: Congressional Budget Obfuscation by Ben Tremblay</title>
		<link>http://striderweb.com/blog/2010/03/cbo-congressional-budget-obfuscation/comment-page-1/#comment-53437</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Tremblay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 19:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started working on my &quot;participatory deliberation&quot; system (&lt;i&gt;aka&lt;/i&gt; &quot;discourse-based decision support&quot;) 35 years ago when I noticed that, left right or indifferent, folk seemed to smother their opinions with ?what? clap-trap.

Maybe Fukuyama is right; maybe we are all of us as individuals engaged in a life/death struggle for prestige. But I know this for sure: damn few seem interested in doing the right thing well.

Anyhow, I celebrate all the calls for OpenData and Gov2.0 ... but that will only help if folk actually want to &lt;a href=&quot;http://groundplane.wordpress.com/gp-101/&quot;&gt;deal with brass tacks, nuts &amp; bolts&lt;/a&gt; ... which is why I&#039;ve kept beavering away these 3 decades and more: to find a way for folk to vent (typical blog post comments) &lt;b&gt;without&lt;/b&gt; losing sight of the underlying facts.

Then, with a system like that, obfuscation of any sort from any party will get de-constructed ... mitigating against sophistry while promoting the subjective narrative, that&#039;s the name of my game!

greets
@bentrem

p.s. nice preview function. tell me the name of the plugin?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started working on my &#8220;participatory deliberation&#8221; system (<i>aka</i> &#8220;discourse-based decision support&#8221;) 35 years ago when I noticed that, left right or indifferent, folk seemed to smother their opinions with ?what? clap-trap.</p>
<p>Maybe Fukuyama is right; maybe we are all of us as individuals engaged in a life/death struggle for prestige. But I know this for sure: damn few seem interested in doing the right thing well.</p>
<p>Anyhow, I celebrate all the calls for OpenData and Gov2.0 &#8230; but that will only help if folk actually want to <a href="http://groundplane.wordpress.com/gp-101/">deal with brass tacks, nuts &amp; bolts</a> &#8230; which is why I&#8217;ve kept beavering away these 3 decades and more: to find a way for folk to vent (typical blog post comments) <b>without</b> losing sight of the underlying facts.</p>
<p>Then, with a system like that, obfuscation of any sort from any party will get de-constructed &#8230; mitigating against sophistry while promoting the subjective narrative, that&#8217;s the name of my game!</p>
<p>greets<br />
@bentrem</p>
<p>p.s. nice preview function. tell me the name of the plugin?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Here we go again&#8230; by Roger</title>
		<link>http://striderweb.com/blog/2007/09/here-we-go-again/comment-page-1/#comment-53436</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 00:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great work! It&#039;s about time we stand up to the extremists and nut cases out there. Just last week, I was in line to go up the CN Tower, and there was a young couple kissing. I thought it was cute, but I heard and saw this muslim man 4-5 people down that found it disgusting that the girl was dressed in shorts (it was like 30-35 celsius that day) and kissing her boyfriend. They were perhaps 13-15 years old, and in puppy love!

But this heartless animal, found that disgusting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great work! It&#8217;s about time we stand up to the extremists and nut cases out there. Just last week, I was in line to go up the CN Tower, and there was a young couple kissing. I thought it was cute, but I heard and saw this muslim man 4-5 people down that found it disgusting that the girl was dressed in shorts (it was like 30-35 celsius that day) and kissing her boyfriend. They were perhaps 13-15 years old, and in puppy love!</p>
<p>But this heartless animal, found that disgusting.</p>
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		<title>Comment on CBO: Congressional Budget Obfuscation by Jesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 03:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol, I know this isn&#039;t a laughing matter but I loved the Pixies farting gold dust analogy.. It is pretty crazy how the CBO works (has always been this way) and the fact that nobody wants to change it.. What do ya do..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol, I know this isn&#8217;t a laughing matter but I loved the Pixies farting gold dust analogy.. It is pretty crazy how the CBO works (has always been this way) and the fact that nobody wants to change it.. What do ya do..</p>
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		<title>Comment on Here we go again&#8230; by James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I salute you Lars Vilks for this brave act. You are a hero. Stop radicals and break them before they take over the world....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I salute you Lars Vilks for this brave act. You are a hero. Stop radicals and break them before they take over the world&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Here we go again&#8230; by Geoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations to the Swedish newspapers for bravely standing up for free speech and publishing Larz&#039;s artwork. Now is the time for all newspapers around the world to show solidarity in this great cause and stand together. Come on!... You know it&#039;s the right thing to do...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations to the Swedish newspapers for bravely standing up for free speech and publishing Larz&#8217;s artwork. Now is the time for all newspapers around the world to show solidarity in this great cause and stand together. Come on!&#8230; You know it&#8217;s the right thing to do&#8230;</p>
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